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What was Freeza's training?
Topic Started: Dec 12 2015, 12:41 PM (4,198 Views)
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We've now seen all we're gonna see of Freeza's training, and evidently it was so good that he could spend time leaning how to hold back in addition to raising his power level.

What do you think happened with Freeza and Tagoma?
Do you feel it was a good move to only show that little bit of training?
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There was not a SINGLE training scene of Veggie & Trunks in ROSAT. Yet those guys raised hell like no one else

Frieza's no different
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Freeza spent his time bench pressing planets.
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Maybe he did some gravity training, or some basic stuff. He said his potential is enormous. It doesnt mean he had to work exremely hard to achieve that power

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Blasting Tagoma to near death as far as we know. Not sure how that's supposed to be more than a sick game of target practice but you can't argue with Super logic.
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He did push-ups and drank plenty of juice.

The push-ups were on Tagoma's body and the juices were Tagoma's fluids
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Frieza got strong by constantly beating a dodora level character to death.

he benched pressed planets, took steroids and did pushups, but it was the planet he was on going down, not he was going up.
he did a rocky balboa style training by tying himself to planets and pulling them, he curled stars and squatted nebulas.

his cardio training consisted of running 5 laps around the universe each morning. and at night he pots a planet on his back and jumps robe for 9 hours straight.

this has been confirmed in the manga
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Dec 12 2015, 02:47 PM
Blasting Tagoma to near death as far as we know. Not sure how that's supposed to be more than a sick game of target practice but you can't argue with Super logic.
I would say he now has ki control. Before if he would have waved a finger at a low level guy it was death. His biggest struggle has always been his ki control. It wears him out to go 100%, and instead of learning to control himself he made lesser forms to regulate power.

I don't see it as totally like what whis is teaching Goku and Vegeta but as a separate extension of it. The saiyans learned how to make their base stronger than any ssj form and ultimately find a new form by stopping their ki from leaking out. Frieza doing what he does makes his weakest X suppressed form as strong as his full power form, allows him to skip his other forms when transforming, and find a fifth form (even if he's too lazy to a master)

Ki control seems to be big in the super circle. Hell Beerus is an example as he can use his ki to nullify universal destructive forces when he chooses.

It's also a slight easy cop out way to possibly make Gihan, Piccolo, Krillin more relevant lTer if they refine theirs
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Dec 12 2015, 05:24 PM
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Dec 12 2015, 02:47 PM
Blasting Tagoma to near death as far as we know. Not sure how that's supposed to be more than a sick game of target practice but you can't argue with Super logic.
I would say he now has ki control. Before if he would have waved a finger at a low level guy it was death. His biggest struggle has always been his ki control. It wears him out to go 100%, and instead of learning to control himself he made lesser forms to regulate power.

I don't see it as totally like what whis is teaching Goku and Vegeta but as a separate extension of it. The saiyans learned how to make their base stronger than any ssj form and ultimately find a new form by stopping their ki from leaking out. Frieza doing what he does makes his weakest X suppressed form as strong as his full power form, allows him to skip his other forms when transforming, and find a fifth form (even if he's too lazy to a master)

Ki control seems to be big in the super circle. Hell Beerus is an example as he can use his ki to nullify universal destructive forces when he chooses.

It's also a slight easy cop out way to possibly make Gihan, Piccolo, Krillin more relevant lTer if they refine theirs
If this were a lot earlier in the series it would be a fine idea but the problem is it feels too little too late to try and prop up precise ki control as the new power gaining device. Especially since the Cell Games make a real big deal about mastering Super Saiyan to eliminate needless stress or energy wasting.
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Plothaxx.
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Yeah I kinda wished they gave a bit more details regarding Freeza's training. They could have at least mentioned or shown that he trained in some kind of special environment whose parameters could have been similar to that of the ROSAT or something similar to that. But, this being Super, I knew it that they wouldn't show his training.
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Dec 12 2015, 05:56 PM
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Dec 12 2015, 05:24 PM
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Dec 12 2015, 02:47 PM
Blasting Tagoma to near death as far as we know. Not sure how that's supposed to be more than a sick game of target practice but you can't argue with Super logic.
I would say he now has ki control. Before if he would have waved a finger at a low level guy it was death. His biggest struggle has always been his ki control. It wears him out to go 100%, and instead of learning to control himself he made lesser forms to regulate power.

I don't see it as totally like what whis is teaching Goku and Vegeta but as a separate extension of it. The saiyans learned how to make their base stronger than any ssj form and ultimately find a new form by stopping their ki from leaking out. Frieza doing what he does makes his weakest X suppressed form as strong as his full power form, allows him to skip his other forms when transforming, and find a fifth form (even if he's too lazy to a master)

Ki control seems to be big in the super circle. Hell Beerus is an example as he can use his ki to nullify universal destructive forces when he chooses.

It's also a slight easy cop out way to possibly make Gihan, Piccolo, Krillin more relevant lTer if they refine theirs
If this were a lot earlier in the series it would be a fine idea but the problem is it feels too little too late to try and prop up precise ki control as the new power gaining device. Especially since the Cell Games make a real big deal about mastering Super Saiyan to eliminate needless stress or energy wasting.
It is true that Goku and Gohan gain a lot by masj, but whither were born with a pl of 120,000,000 and never bother d to train or learn to control that power fully their whole lives. Frieza was lazy, but aside from Buu, he may be the strongest guy there veer naturally was since Cell needed bio energy
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How did Freeza lack ki control on Namek? He formed several unique attacks and when he was bombarding Piccolo with Crazy Finger Beam, he wasn't one shotting him or anything. Hell, Freeza could raise and lower his power level at will, an advanced technique
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Dec 12 2015, 06:47 PM
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Dec 12 2015, 05:56 PM
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Dec 12 2015, 05:24 PM
ekrolo2
Dec 12 2015, 02:47 PM
Blasting Tagoma to near death as far as we know. Not sure how that's supposed to be more than a sick game of target practice but you can't argue with Super logic.
I would say he now has ki control. Before if he would have waved a finger at a low level guy it was death. His biggest struggle has always been his ki control. It wears him out to go 100%, and instead of learning to control himself he made lesser forms to regulate power.

I don't see it as totally like what whis is teaching Goku and Vegeta but as a separate extension of it. The saiyans learned how to make their base stronger than any ssj form and ultimately find a new form by stopping their ki from leaking out. Frieza doing what he does makes his weakest X suppressed form as strong as his full power form, allows him to skip his other forms when transforming, and find a fifth form (even if he's too lazy to a master)

Ki control seems to be big in the super circle. Hell Beerus is an example as he can use his ki to nullify universal destructive forces when he chooses.

It's also a slight easy cop out way to possibly make Gihan, Piccolo, Krillin more relevant lTer if they refine theirs
If this were a lot earlier in the series it would be a fine idea but the problem is it feels too little too late to try and prop up precise ki control as the new power gaining device. Especially since the Cell Games make a real big deal about mastering Super Saiyan to eliminate needless stress or energy wasting.
It is true that Goku and Gohan gain a lot by masj, but whither were born with a pl of 120,000,000 and never bother d to train or learn to control that power fully their whole lives. Frieza was lazy, but aside from Buu, he may be the strongest guy there veer naturally was since Cell needed bio energy
I don't have a problem with Freeza having crazy potential, my problem lies in the time it took for him to get this strong and the lack of anything even remotely explaining it except morbid target practice on Tagoma. I really don't see why Freeza couldn't have been resurrected say sometime during the seven year break then just spent a decade in hiding and training.
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Freeza's training was becoming popular enough to have a famous band write a heavy metal song about him, leading to his appearance in this movie and powering up.
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